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    10 September 2005 @ 6pm

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  • Almost Daily Interviews part 4 (Dolls Gone Wild)

    In this edition of the Almost Daily Interviews, we speak to Dolls Gone Wild, a vigilante female group of bloggers who expose sexual predators on IRC. When they got Tomorrowed, it triggered a flurry of responses. Nobody knew what to make of it. Some said what they were doing was wrong but others thought they were doing the right thing. Whatever it is that they are doing, it sure took a lot of guts, imagination and a certain sense of righteousness.

    I think they are making the intarweb a safer place. And that’s why I asked for and got an interview with these witty and intelligent girls. Click on more to read what they have to say.

    Update!:
    I’ve just got an email from The Dolls informing me that they will be featured in tomorrow’s (11 Sept 2005) edition of The New Paper. Congrats!!!

    Update 2!!!
    Lancerlord has kindly scanned the newpaper article on Dolls Gone Wrong. You can view it here.

    Update 3!!
    Here is the link to the New Paper article, entitled GIRLS PROWL CHATROOMS, OFFER THEMSELVES AS BUAYA BAITS. Title cannot be shorter and more concise meh? Wah lau.

    Can you tell us a little about yourselves? Stuff like age, profession, hobbies etc.

    We are university students studying in various tertiary institutions in Singapore. Hobbies wise, we too are normal human teenage girls who hang out, shop and catch movies in our free time. Besides the information we have just uncovered, the rest stays under the blanket, we’d rather keep a more blurred identity for safety and protective reasons.

    What’s the story behind your blog? How did you get the idea to start such a blog. When did you start? Why did you start?

    We have been regular chatters of the IRC, chatting for about 2 to 3 times weekly. We started at the age of 16, and realized the pattern of guys liberally asking for sex after asking for an introduction. It came upon as a culture shock as we were all from an ‘all-girls-school’ environment so we were hardly exposed to guys and their sexually active natures. The idea to start the blog is to bring about awareness that Singapore media fails to bring to the public. The public is aware that these internet chat meeting sessions happen but they are completely oblivious to the fact that such conversations take place before a meeting. Our disgust with a particular guy in march spurred us to create a blog to let all young girls know what is going on. However, we did not act on our plans to create the blog due to our commitments; school, assignments etc. We only started this blog approximately 3 weeks ago. Every concerned parent reminds their child that internet meeting is not safe etc. Despite such reminders, how many times a month do you notice a girl getting taken advantaged of because of internet meetings? This has been an issue since we were teenagers, the government cannot do anything to put a complete stop to such activities and their advise have been turned a deaf ear by a minority of teenagers. By creating this blog, we hope that teenagers will be more aware and be able to relate to our views and note the patterns in the way men ask for sex on the net. Its an educational blog with a dose of humour and entertainment so that these teens will come back and read more and introduce it to their friends rather than simply reading it today and forgetting it tomorrow. The humor part is a bonus dose so that people will introduce this blog to others and not label it as “another one of those boring campaigning” blogs.

    After getting Tomorrowed, a lot of attention was lavished on both the positive and negative aspects of what you are doing. Has the negative feedback discouraged you in anyway?

    The negative feedback is more on the moral issue of us posting up the pictures and the fact that these girls we have pictured ourselves to be are of legal age, so whats the big “hoohaa” here? What we are doing is entrapment, in Singapore, there are no entrapment laws as we have checked out. It does not matter whether or not the girls are of a legal age or not. We feel that we deserve more respect as girls regardless of age. It’s a complete insult for guys to chat u up and within seconds start asking you if you want to chat dirty and ask for sex a while later. It’s not supposed to be how the IRC operates. The IRC is a place for people to voice opinions, make friends perhaps however, we can tell you that every chat we have come across, we have yet to meet a guy who proposes to chat about interests and hobbies. The negative feedback has cautioned us to look at our methods and we look at such critics as ways to improve. These feed back has not discouraged us in any way at all. We’ve noticed that such negative comments usually come from the males and not the females. We do not blame them for such reactions towards the blog as we are aware there are decent guys out there and the blog defaces the male gender and stereotypes. However, we have mentioned time and again that these men we are exposing are those who have wronged the female species; the men who disgrace their own gender, the men who fall in our definition as “bastards”. We have yet to get negative comments from the females.

    Have you personally met up with anybody from IRC? Did this whole thing come about as a result of your own bad personal experience or a close friend’s?

    Personal meet ups have not taken place. However we did think of doing a girl-version of such meet ups, meaning, we’d ask girls on the IRC to meet and if they do turn up, we will warn them against these men and how close they would have been to being taken advantaged. This whole thing came as a personal bad experience encountered by a close friend in secondary school when she was 14. She had a chat with a guy on the IRC for two occasions following up with meeting up. The guy had asked her out for an innocent meeting of coffee at a coffee outlet near his place. However, what took place was not innocent after all. He arranged to meet her at the neighborhood shopping mall near his place and then claimed he forgot to get his wallet so he had to go back to get it. He asked her to accompany her to get his wallet as he cautioned her that there were many perverted Indian workers loitering around his place as there was the construction of new HDB blocks taking place near by. At his place, he stripped her of her clothing while she struggled. Having been 14 and weaker, she could not do much. She was lucky that she managed to stop him from having sex with her. He was 19 and in the army at that time. She did not dare to report it to the police and constantly blamed herself for the incident calling herself “stupid” and “foolish”. None of her parents know of this incident. She was too embarrassed to report to anyone of higher authority and felt that since it was a consensual meeting, this report would not be valid. When she confided in us however, we felt that this incident was consensual to a coffee meeting, not a ticket to sexual activities. We got angry at whatever happened to her. Her relationships with boys have not been working well because most guys need some form of physical attention in a respectable relationship as well and she always flinches from their attempts. This has left an emotional scar etched in her mind. This incident has left the crew thinking that we need to project a message to young girls out there. We are reaching out to the girls who are not aware such things take place. We cannot assume that in an open society, every girl is just an open sex toy.

    Why do you think girls meet up with men from IRC if they know it could be dangerous and bad for them?

    We actually feel that most girls who are on the IRC seeking friends and meetings with the opposite sex are girls who seek attention and have low self-esteem. They do not feel loved enough or feel pressured that their peers have experienced relationships at school therefore they seek that attention on the IRC. In the IRC, these guys who offer meetings and sex give them a kind of gratification that they can be as good as their friends in school and they too can get a guy. On the danger part, its human nature for people to be ignorant when it comes to warnings. That’s where the phrase “curiosity kills the cat” comes in. People rather experience it than heed advice.

    Do you think it’s the men’s fault entirely?

    We have been having plans to ask girls out as well to balance out the theory of why guys turn up for meetings with the girls. We feel that if these guys do turn up for the meetings, we’d think that the girls whom they been asking for meetings do turn up as well which explains their appearances at the meetings. It’s the minority of men we are looking at in this blog. We cannot blame the whole gender completely. We believe that their upbringing and environment can influence their behavior now. The media has depicted girls in movies as someone guys can get ‘lucky’ with and that too can influence the drastic change in the openness in society today. In all cases that we have encountered, it’s the guys who initiate sex. Many people will say that we can choose to ignore such requests but what if ever request is about sex? To think the shield of anonymity would embolden so many men to initiate sex immediately to a girl! In this blog, when we do go undercover on the IRC, we do not click on the guys asking for sex or meet ups. We do not initiate. However, actions are always based on the individual himself. No one else can be blamed if anything happens but the individual.

    You have posted several photos of the ‘guilty’ men on your blog. Have there been any repercussions so far? What if you took the wrong photos and the men are innocent?

    There have not been any repercussions so far, we make very sure that it’s the exact man that we are looking out for before attempting to take any photos. That’s why we ask for the men’s pictures before meeting them as we would not want to simply go on a blind meeting.

    What is your goal from doing this? Where is all this leading to? What do you hope to achieve at the end of this?

    Our goal is that girls will be more cautious and more knowledgeable in whatever that is going on in the IRC. Even a simple meeting of coffee, as illustrated, can go wrong. Identities can always be twisted while on the IRC. The IRC is not a place to easily trust people and give out personal information; this will be risking oneself. We are also hoping that by doing this we will be better able to gain the respect of men and show them that we are not as naïve and be easily trifled with.

    What advice do you have for young girls to prevent being taken advantage of by sexual predators online?

    Never give private information about yourself. The men hiding behind that screen may not look like how you deem them to look like. Never trust completely what you see in that chat window no matter how fairy-tale-like it looks.

    What plans do you have for the future of your blog? Will you be recruiting more help to patrol IRC? Please share with us your thoughts.

    We are a simple bunch of ordinary girls reaching out to our juniors and girls younger than us. We want to be the older ‘sister’s of these girls and teach them through our own experiences rather than them venturing out on their own to meet a guy from the IRC. We hope to gain more public awareness regardless of age. We have considered getting together with the authorities like the police especially in the “underaged” cases. We have had e-mails from parents who appreciate our blog as well. Recriting more help to patrol IRC, we will not be recruiting. However, we have told the readers that they too can send us chat logs via e-mail. These logs, we will read and post them up once it has been approved with credits to them.

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    37 Comments

    Posted by
    Darren
    10 September 2005 @ 9pm

    What about female sexual predators on the net? Should we expose them as well?


    Posted by
    Han
    10 September 2005 @ 10pm

    Darren:

    Is there such a thing? I’d be amazed if there’s such a thing as ‘female sexual predators’ preying on ‘unsuspecting’ and ‘innocent’ older men.


    Posted by
    lene
    11 September 2005 @ 12am

    Female sexual predators should be exposed.. if they can be found.


    Posted by
    Ray
    11 September 2005 @ 12am

    They can be found, if dodos exist.


    Posted by
    ksh
    11 September 2005 @ 2am

    ownage…
    girls fight back !
    men watch out !
    i support the actions.


    Posted by
    oscar
    11 September 2005 @ 3am

    waste of time…


    Posted by
    kax
    11 September 2005 @ 3am

    Tertiary education and have time for this ?! University students are either bz studying or dating. Shouldn’t u gals do the same ?


    Posted by
    naeboo~
    11 September 2005 @ 4am

    of coz female sex predators exist. but usually they r “appreciated” :P

    isnt there a recent case abt a 25yo teacher having sex with her students in aussie?


    Posted by
    cy
    11 September 2005 @ 9am

    naeboo: That happens all too often here.


    Posted by
    Johnny Malkavian
    11 September 2005 @ 9am

    Men behaving badly ought to be put in their place. I’m all for shaming these buggers.

    I’d think female sexual predators are more often more than welcome. It’s the heartbreakers the guys’d probably want to avoid, yah ?


    Posted by
    wugui
    11 September 2005 @ 12pm

    dun u tink its kinda lame wif tiz kind of things happen arnd u can prevent once can u prevent it frm over and over again…after u peeps die liao dey oso wun cease to exist rite…i sec sch oreadi buai tahan liao u ppl uni peeps..can hav so much time ar..damn pro wor..


    Posted by
    hao-ed
    11 September 2005 @ 1pm

    Gd jOb….the girls are OWNING!!!

    play the korny dudes round & round around ur fingertips ladies!
    korny males beware, u have been exposed!!

    woha.Ha..


    Posted by
    desperate addict
    11 September 2005 @ 2pm

    I’m totally with the girls. Men who know about this blog will know that they have the risk to be ‘unmasked’. This will hopefully make them stop carrying out any despicable acts under the mask of the internet.

    Of course, like what wugui says, such people will never cease to exist. But if these girls with their blog can help increase awareness and do their part for the society, we should support them. That’s the least we can do on our parts. At least the girls are doing something and not just sitting there watching such acts go on.


    Posted by
    roz
    11 September 2005 @ 3pm

    that’s a cute doll. buy from where one?

    it’s an issue of supply and demand innit? guys wont be going around asking so openly for sex on the irc if they didn’t think (OR KNOW) it was so easy to get. i wonder what are the success rates…do they just go around asking till they get someone who says yes or what?

    girls with low self esteem? why can’t they be bulimic instead of sexing guys up on the net. ok ok..either way is quite bad. anyhoos..

    at the very least the blog IS funny. esp the french episode. hahahaha!


    Posted by
    naeboo~
    11 September 2005 @ 5pm

    cy>> then why are ppl complaining that teachers are not doing their jobs?? heh


    Posted by
    coupdegras
    11 September 2005 @ 8pm

    here’s a conjecture: if there weren’t any girls who willingly met up or better yet, even agree to chat with obvious perverts, there wouldn’t be any perverts prowling IRC.

    gee, while we’re at it, let’s paste the photos of ‘criminals’ such as ‘adulterers’ and people approaching females of legal ages because soliciting sex is a crime and on par with rape, murder and theft.


    Posted by
    Johnny Malkavian
    11 September 2005 @ 8pm

    coupdegras: there needn’t be easy girls on irc to explain the presence of pervies there. what only needs to happen is for said pervies to _think_ of irc as a place where easy girls are readily available.


    Posted by
    lene
    11 September 2005 @ 11pm

    after reading the newspaper article.. i realise it isn’t really right. they say that they’re doing this to warn girls. but they should be giving advices on how to lookout for these men and not by shaming them. it’s true, sometimes it’s the females fault for “luring” them.


    Posted by
    barffie
    12 September 2005 @ 12pm

    —> http://www.perverted-justice.com

    This site has been around for quite a long time, exposing perverts on IRC and other Instant Messengers. They even post their real phone numbers up!


    Posted by
    reb
    13 September 2005 @ 1am

    as with any other blog, i think that whatever thats in it should be taken with a pinch of salt and for amusement purposes.

    whatever that the writers contribute on the blog is also up to their discretion just like any other blog.

    however, im glad the girls have achieved what they wanted: to let everyone sit up and be aware. and within a short space of 3 weeks too!

    good job girls!


    Posted by
    jadedhobbits
    13 September 2005 @ 1am

    i say…: men or rather be*sts…wake up!!! go imagine yr wife or daughter doing the same thing to u be u post comments that only says so much (not much…rally…) about u. If that actually happens…i say agian…sorry for yr plight! Too free??? Nothing to do??? The wall is always available.


    Posted by
    rainx
    13 September 2005 @ 11am

    *thumbs up*

    I guess those negative comments are from mens who are just afraid they might be next…
    or rather one less place to hunt?


    Posted by
    Fish
    13 September 2005 @ 11am

    Hello
    this is rather a good site and seriously its good to let the teenagers get aware of the darkness in IRC. My friend was being raped because of that.

    To darren: about women predator, u probably can do ur own blog and see how many women look for sex on the irc. I would like to know how many there are.


    Posted by
    Uthink
    14 September 2005 @ 8pm

    these girls are purposely leading guys on with the intending of pushing back the blame on the guys.

    what a bunch of self-righteous people. Mistakes after mistakes have been made by you all


    Posted by
    edan
    14 September 2005 @ 9pm

    At least they’re girls. I think it would be better if they were guys.

    and if they injected more humour into the conversations. (the most recent ones were kinda… boring. it got better further down the page though.)


    Posted by
    eri
    14 September 2005 @ 11pm

    Self-righteous?

    I would think they were self-righteous if they disregarded the possibility that females too, can be guilty of being sexual predators. They would be self-righteous if they did not acknowledge the possibility of decent males out there.

    Perhaps they may appear to you to be purposely leading the guys on. It is also true that their methods of manipulating the conversations may be less than orthodox. I hope the girls can refine that with time, or come up with a less provocative (if provocative it is) manner of guiding the conversations. Yet you should take it all with a pinch of salt and appreciate the girls’ intentions as well rather than criticise their methods only.

    Self righteous? I’m afraid you are self-righteous, more so than the girls at any rate.


    Posted by
    flyaway
    15 September 2005 @ 2am

    girls are targeted for sex on IRC. its true.
    but theres a fine line between right and wrong.

    issit any different from meeting a gal in a club and having a one night stand. where do we draw the line? who do we judge and who do we not judge?

    the sleaziest and sometimes sexiest guys have no need to be on IRC to find a gal to sleep with. they do it in real life and get away with it all the time. but here you are condemning the people who are obviously the most desperate and unable to get a gal. The probablility of someone meeting up with them on IRC is less than 1% (guesstimate). But the probability of a goodlooking guy scoring at a club is much much much higher. Just because they hv actually met physically does that mean the gal knows the guy well enough?

    so where will u draw the line when it comes to net meeting and normal meeting. In a normal meetup does the guy think less about sex than on the net?

    i am not condoning the actions of individuals that u hv targeted but to publicly shame these guys is WRONG. You must be mature in what u do and what u say to keep your entries credible.

    underage stuff…its terrible. that one i hv nothing to say.

    IRC has been known to be a place for this kind of stuff… thats another reason why these guys are so concentrated there. Fish is to water as pervs is to IRC. its the old addage again. which came first? the chicken or the egg? did guys bring sex to irc or did irc bring sex to the guys? its debatable cos its been like that for over years.

    please feedback your feelings people. this is as objective as i can be for freedom of speech and freedom of action. We pay a price for freedom and this is part of it.


    Posted by
    fey
    15 September 2005 @ 9am

    Wah lau… How old already still chat on IRC. No wonder so free jiak pah bo sai pang…

    P.S. I hate the way they keep emphasising on “Singaporean men”. “Singaporean men” this, “”Singaporean men” that.

    As if this doesn’t happen in other countries. You should check out the chatrooms in the States. Stupid c*nts.


    Posted by
    passerby
    15 September 2005 @ 12pm

    You gals should also feature something about the number of young gals looking for “boyfriends” in irc. They may not sound shameless but they still are. Also many young gals/whores are prostituting themselves on irc for money. Some men are bad and shameless, so are some gals. It would be good and more objective to expose the bad and the shameless of both genders, if not people would think you gals are just out for spiteful revenge for your friend.


    Posted by
    rick
    15 September 2005 @ 3pm

    its a site about singaporean men thats why the emphasis. watch your language on the girls fey.

    The blog is unique because the stars of the blog itself are men from singapore and not globally. I think the blog is great, the girls are doing something wonderful, the government should do something like that as well to gain awareness and publicity.
    Good work girls, i wonder why no one ever thought of doing something like that before…


    Posted by
    paranoid
    15 September 2005 @ 6pm

    maybe its just me.. m just worried for u girls getting in trouble w the law. we all know how complicated it gets and i hate to even think if anything bad were to happen to u “angels” while doing this for us..

    cheerz


    Posted by
    passerby
    15 September 2005 @ 6pm

    There was a Straits Times article some time back that 16% of Singaporean youths (ages 12 to 17) go out to meet strangers they have chatted with online,and 22% of them went alone. Although the figures are non gender-specific, the threat of online predators is still very real.


    Posted by
    ErSatz
    15 September 2005 @ 7pm

    Get to kmow tis blog thru my sis,it’s entertaining but i know it wun be if it were to happen to me.U girls have my support on tis ya..!!!!


    Posted by
    Knowledge
    24 September 2005 @ 2pm

    2 words – spitful people. Can grow up, already in Uni yet so free? so righteous then go join police or become a lawyer lah.. or u trying to say the government is lousy and not doing its job of protecting the citizen.. o.0?


    Posted by
    my opinion
    24 September 2005 @ 11pm

    why are people saying that university students shouldn’t be free? isn’t that out of point? anyway, two words. time management. sheesh

    it’s their own blog, their own time, their own life.

    thumbs up to you girls! you have my support!


    Posted by
    Shine
    29 September 2005 @ 11pm

    Great jOb ladies.. appreciate u gals for wad u ppl had done.. supporting u gals all da way!


    Posted by
    Jas
    30 September 2005 @ 12pm

    I doubt any one who might have posted any of the negative comments are females. They probably are people who are guilty of the same actions.

    I do know some guys who posted as girls and acted slutty in the chats. That’s an insult to girls. Please stop that.

    For guys who love dirty chats, think twice before doing so. Serve you right for being exposed. Good Work gals!